we will start by thanking you for being with us. you have an event, a pumpkin-carving contest that is sugar free. >> it is and our children are allowed to have children, but we have to cover it with insulin. we let them have a normal live and do the things other kids do, we have to monitor it more. >> the pumpkin carving is an opportunity not just to get in the holiday spirit, but be with other people going through the same challenges. >> yes. we have try to have events once a month. it's an opportunity for kids to come and see how they manage their disease. they can be together and eating the treats and learning how to manage that. it's also time for parents to talk to other parents and get support and information and advice. >> you mentioned you will tag along with your 12-year-old daughter as she goes trick or treating. you can't drop her off at a birthday party because you need to monitor her blood sugar. how old are the kids before they can kind of take it on their own. what kind of challenges does it present for having a norma